Some People Really Hate Bush, and conservatives…

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The following is an article on a blog known as Alternative Tulsa. After reading the article, check out my reply. Especially since I must be some kind of ignorant idiot to believe anything good ever came from Bush or conservatism:

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Wednesday, January 28, 2009
The Bush Legacy: A ‘Spectacular Disaster’ in the Islamic World

George Bush is gone, of course, but the damage that he and his administration inflicted on the United States remains with us.

There’s the economy, of course, but there’s also the international political situation. Here’s a succinct summary of the problem from historian William Dalrymple, writing in The New York Review of Books:

Eight years of neocon foreign policies have been a spectacular disaster for American interests in the Islamic world, leading to the rise of Iran as a major regional power, the advance of Hamas and Hezbollah, the wreckage Iraq, with over two million external refugees and the ethnic cleansing of its Christian population, and now the implosion of Afghanistan and Pakistan, probably the most dangerous development of all.
To George Bush, Dick Cheney, Donald Rumsfeld, John Yoo, David Addington and so many others: Thanks for nothing.

Posted by Alternative Tulsa at 7:06 PM
Labels: Alternative Reading, U.S. politics

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1 comments:
Anonymous said…
Is this what you mean by “Spectacular Disaster”?

Here is an excerpt from

The World; How Many People Has Hussein Killed?
By JOHN F. BURNS
Published: January 26, 2003 NyTimes.com

“…
Since then, Mr. Hussein’s has been a tale of terror that scholars have compared to that of Stalin, whom the Iraqi leader is said to revere, even if his own brutalities have played out on a small scale. Stalin killed 20 million of his own people, historians have concluded. Even on a proportional basis, his crimes far surpass Mr. Hussein’s, but figures of a million dead Iraqis, in war and through terror, may not be far from the mark, in a country of 22 million people.
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You don’t have to believe the WMD arguments for the Iraq war. You don’t have to believe that Saddam Hussein wanted to find a way to attack the U.S. in any way possible. You don’t have to believe that even if he didn’t directly fund the Al Qaeda that committed 9-11, he was willing to afterwards.

Yet, wouldn’t it be a reasonable thing to say that such a regime is not a “good” thing for its people, and that the removal of it does the country, and by extension, the world a service?

How much hatred of Bush and conservatives in general would it take to justify letting Saddam kill another million of his own citizens while appeasing his saber rattling nuclear threats at the U.N. and U.S. respectively?

I can’t say Bush did everything right. I can say there are at least a million people still alive today because he tried.

Peregrin
theperegrin.com

January 29, 2009 9:25:00 AM CST

Oklahoma Ice Storm : Global Warming? or Cooling? or Bunk.

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Since it is begining to look like Tulsa, OK will be gripped in another ice storm like that of 2007, I thought I would indulge in listing the temps of the past with hope of finding evidence of Global Warming.

According to NOAA here are the stats for January in Oklahoma’s past.

Coldest Year for January: 1930 at 23.2 degrees Most recent record setter: 1979 at 25.4 degrees
Hottest Year for January: 1923 at 47.8 degrees Most recent record setter: 2006 at 47.7 degrees

So, apparently it has been both colder and warmer in the past. This is especially telling since in Oklahoma we have been a bustling metropolis with cars and other big bad pollutions for a much shorter time than our smoggier sister states.

You can make your own conclusions, as I have included the link; however, I think we might just have a whole lot less effect on our own planet than some folks may think.

January In Oklahoma’s Past



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